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Pipeline Decision Pits Jobs Against Environment

Originally published on Thu November 3, 2011 12:21 pm

In the coming months, the Obama administration will decide whether to approve the Keystone pipeline, which would carry tar sands oil from Canada through the U.S. down to the Gulf of Mexico.

Environmental advocates will try to encircle the White House on Sunday in a show of solidarity against the project. Steady protests have made this one of the most high-profile environmental decisions of the Obama presidency.

White House spokesman Jay Carney often tries to distance the president from the decision-making process over the pipeline.

"The review of this decision is housed at the State Department, by executive order," he said Wednesday.

That's because it's an international project; the State Department will send a report to the White House with recommendations.

And yet, as Carney acknowledged: "This is the Obama administration. And we certainly don't expect, and the president doesn't expect, and you should not expect that the ultimate outcome of this process will do anything but reflect the president's views."

In other words, the president will ultimately decide whether to give a red or green light to the oil pipeline. It will inevitably divide his base, says Josh Freed, vice president for the clean energy program at the centrist Democratic think tank Third Way.

"Labor unions are big supporters of building the Keystone pipeline," he says. "Environmentalists who've been frustrated with several other decisions the president has made over the last three years have turned this into a proxy to see whose side of many environmental issues the president stands on."

That's how the environmentalists describe this fight, too: a test of how much this president really deserves their support.

"This pipeline and an increased tar sands expansion will undermine all of the good work that the president is trying to do in terms of reducing our use of oil and reducing greenhouse gas emissions," says Susan Casey-Lefkowitz of the Natural Resources Defense Council.

On the other hand, labor groups say the pipeline could create jobs.

The environmentalists and the unions might both be right.

It's not the first time the president has been forced to choose between two conflicting parts of his political base. In September, he abandoned tougher air quality rules under pressure from business groups that said the regulations would cost thousands of jobs.

Environmentalists groaned; workers cheered.

Robert Mendelsohn, a professor at the Yale School of Forestry and Environmental Studies, says that's to be expected in this economy.

"People don't want to see the environment raped and ruined, but on the other hand, they don't want to be unemployed," he says. "So [Obama's] looking for the right balance, and right now it seems the economy is more important."

Looking for the right balance is pretty much how President Obama describes it as well. In an interview with a Nebraska TV station this week, he said he's trying to take the long view.

"We need to encourage domestic natural gas and oil production. We need to make sure we have energy security and aren't just relying on Middle East sources," he said. "But there's a way of doing that and still making sure the health and safety of the American people and folks in Nebraska are protected."

Although President Obama has increased American clean energy production, the country still relies overwhelmingly on oil.

Freed says you can't just pull the bottle out of the baby's mouth.

"Because the baby still needs to eat, and right now virtually every car and most of the trucking fleet in the United States relies on either gasoline or diesel fuel, and you can't switch over in one year or five years or 10 years," he says. "It's going to take a long time."

America's daily oil consumption has actually dropped by a couple million barrels in recent years.

But the U.S. still sucks down around 19 million barrels a day, which means there's a long way to go until America's thirst is quenched.

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Transcript

RENEE MONTAGNE, HOST:

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And I'm Steve Inskeep.

For weeks now, we've seen nationwide protests over the economy. Now, environmental groups are planning a high-profile protest of their own. They say they want to encircle the White House Sunday.

MONTAGNE: President Obama's administration faces a big environmental decision. It's whether to approve the Keystone Pipeline. The pipeline would carry Canadian oil made from tar sands through the U.S. and down to the Gulf of Mexico.

INSKEEP: In addition to the environment, the debate involves economics, and also, as we hear from NPR's Ari Shapiro, politics.

ARI SHAPIRO, BYLINE: White House spokesman Jay Carney often tries to distance Mr. Obama from the decision-making process over the keystone pipeline. Yesterday was just the latest instance when he said...

JAY CARNEY: The review of this decision is housed at the State Department, by executive order.

SHAPIRO: That's because it's an international project. The State Department will send a report to the White House with recommendations. And yet, as Carney acknowledged...

CARNEY: This is the Obama administration. And we certainly don't expect, and the president doesn't expect, and you should not expect, that the ultimate outcome of this process will do anything but reflect the president's views.

SHAPIRO: In other words, this decision to give a red or green light to the oil pipeline will ultimately have the president's stamp. And it will inevitably divide his base, says Josh Freed. He's Vice President of Clean Energy at the centrist democratic think tank, Third Way.

JOSH FREED: Labor unions are big supporters of building the Keystone Pipeline. Environmentalists who've been frustrated with several other decisions the president has made over the last three years have turned this into a proxy to see whose side of many environmental issues the president stands on.

SHAPIRO: That's how the environmentalists describe this fight too - a test of how much this president really deserves their support. Susan Casey-Lefkowitz is with the Natural Resources Defense Council.

SUSAN CASEY-LEFKOWITZ: This pipeline and an increased tar sands expansion will undermine all of the good work that the president is trying to do in terms of reducing our use of oil and reducing greenhouse gas emissions.

SHAPIRO: On the other hand, labor groups say the pipeline could create jobs.

The environmentalists and the unions might both be right. It's not the first time this president has been forced to choose between two conflicting parts of his political base. In September, he abandoned tougher air quality rules under pressure from business groups who said the regulations would cost thousands of jobs. Environmentalists groaned, workers cheered.

Robert Mendelsohn says that's to be expected in this economy. He's a professor at the Yale School of Forestry and Environmental Studies.

ROBERT MENDELSOHN: People don't want to see the environment raped and ruined. But on the other hand they don't want to be unemployed. So he's looking for the right balance and right now the economy is more important.

SHAPIRO: Looking for the right balance is pretty much how President Obama describes it as well. In an interview with a Nebraska TV station this week he said he's trying to take the long view.

PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: We need to encourage domestic natural gas and oil production. We need to make sure that we have energy security and aren't just relying on Middle East sources. But there's a way of doing that and still making sure that the health and safety of the American people and folks in Nebraska are protected.

SHAPIRO: Although President Obama has increased American clean energy production, the country still relies overwhelmingly on oil. And Josh Freed of Third Way says you can't just pull the bottle out of the baby's mouth.

FREED: Because the baby still needs to eat. And right now virtually every car and most of the trucking fleet in the United States relies on either gasoline or diesel fuel. And you can't switch over in one year or five years or ten years. It's going to take a long time.

SHAPIRO: America's daily oil consumption has actually dropped by a couple million barrels in recent years. But the U.S. still sucks down around 19 million barrels a day, which means there's a long way to go until the country's thirst is quenched.

Ari Shapiro, NPR News, Washington. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.