'The Kissing Case' And The Lives It Shattered

Originally published on April 29, 2011 11:38 am

In 1958, James Hanover Thompson and his friend David Simpson — both African-American, both children — were accused of kissing a girl who was white. They were arrested, and taken to jail. Prosecutors sought a stiff penalty — living in reform school until they were 21.

"The Kissing Case," as it came to be known, drew international media attention to Monroe, N.C., at the time. But since then, it's been largely forgotten. Even the Thompson family rarely talked about it. Recently, James Hanover Thompson sat down with his younger brother, Dwight, and told him what happened.

"We were playing with some friends over in the white neighborhood, chasing spiders and wrestling and stuff like that," James says.

"One of the little kids suggested that one of the little white girls give us a kiss on the jaw," he says. "The little girl gave me a peck on the cheek, and then she kissed David on the cheek. So, we didn't think nothing of it. We were just little kids."

But the little girl mentioned the kiss back home, and her parents were furious; the police set out in search of the boys.

"The police car pulled up, and they said, 'We're taking y'all to jail,'" James says. "I didn't know what was going on. But when we got down to the police station, we understand that they said that we had raped a little white girl."

The two boys — James, 9, and David, 7 — were charged with molestation. And their punishment started immediately.

"They uh... took us down in the bottom of the police station to a cell. And they had us handcuffed — they started beating us," James says. "They was beating us to our body, you know? They didn't beat us to the face, where nobody could see it; they just punched us all in the stomach, and back and legs. We was hollering and screaming. We thought they was gonna kill us."

James says that he and David were held in jail for about six days before they were allowed to see their parents. And soon after, they were sent to reform school, with the possibility that they might be released before they turned 21.

News reports of the case spread far and wide — it became the "Kissing Case" in many headlines. Officials from the NAACP and Eleanor Roosevelt were among those who reportedly asked North Carolina Gov. Luther Hodges to show clemency in the case.

Eventually, the governor pardoned James and David, and they were released after spending three months in detention.

James' sister, Brenda Lee Graham, also spoke about those days with Dwight, who was born in 1961, and grew up not knowing much about the incident.

"Mom was a nervous wreck. She didn't sleep," Brenda tells Dwight. "She would be up walking the floors and praying."

Remembering what life was like for the rest of the family while the authorities were holding James, Brenda says, "I remember that at night, you could see them burning crosses..."

"Right there in the front yard?" Dwight asks.

"Right there in the front yard," Brenda says. "And my mom and them, they would go out in the morning, and sweep bullets off our front porch."

James says that each week during his detention, he was sent to a psychologist. "And he'd tell me, 'They should have castrated y'all.' I mean, it was just something," he says.

Brenda says that when James came back home, "it was like seeing somebody different, that you didn't even know. He never talked about what he went through there. But ever since then, his mind just hadn't been the same."

And, James says, while he and David were pardoned, they never got an apology, either.

"I still feel the hurt and the pain from it," he says. "And nobody never said, 'Hey, look, I'm sorry what happened to y'all. It was wrong.'"

He has spent most of his adult life in and out of prison for robbery.

"I always sit around and I wonder, if this hadn't happened to me, you know, what could I have turned out to be?" James says. "Could I have been a doctor? Could I have went off to some college, or some great school? It just destroyed our life."

Brenda says, "My brother and his friend had to suffer on account of that. And I mean, they suffered. From one kiss. I've thought about that. It all started with a kiss."

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STEVE INSKEEP, host:

It is Friday morning when we hear from series, Story Corps. Today we have the story of an infamous kiss. It happened in Monroe, North Carolina in 1958.

Two African-American children, James Hanover Thompson and his friend David Simpson were accused of kissing a girl who was white. They were arrested, and faced charges of molestation. It became known around the world as the kissing case.

The Thompson family has rarely talked about this, but this morning we will hear from James Hanover Thompson. He recently sat down with his younger brother, Dwight, to talk about what happened.

Mr. JAMES HANOVER THOMPSON: We were playing with some friends over in the white neighborhood, chasing spiders and wrestling and stuff like that. One of the kids suggested that one of the little white girls give us a kiss on the jaw. The little girl gave me a peck on the cheek, and then she kissed David on the cheek. So, we didn't think nothing of it. We were just little kids.

Mr. DWIGHT THOMPSON: How old was that?

Mr. HANOVER THOMPSON: I was nine years old. David was seven. Really didn't hardly know what a kiss was. And so, we went on home like nothing happened, you now.

And the next day the police car pulled up, and they said, we're taking y'all to jail. I didn't know what was going on. But when we got down to the police station, we understand that they said that we had raped a little white girl.

They took us down in the bottom of the police station to a cell. And they had us handcuffed. They started beating us. They was beating us to our body, you know? They didn't beat us to the face, where nobody could see it; they just punched us all in the stomach, and back and legs. We was hollering and screaming. We thought they was gonna kill us.

And so we stayed in jail for six or seven days before our parents ever got a chance to see us. And they sent me to a psychologist, and I would go see that man - every week I had to go see him, and he'd tell me they should have castrated y'all. I mean, it was just something.

Mr. THOMPSON: So how does that make you feel now? I mean, how old are you now?

Mr. HANOVER THOMPSON: I'm 62 now.

Mr. THOMPSON: Sixty-two.

Mr. HANOVER THOMPSON: I still feel the hurt and the pain from it. And nobody have never said, hey, look, I'm sorry what happened to y'all, it was wrong. And I always sit around and I wonder if this hadn't happened to me, you know, what could I have turned out to be? Could I have been a doctor? Could I have went off to some college or some great school? It just destroyed our life.

INSKEEP: James Hanover Thompson and David Simpson were eventually released. James has spent much of his time in and out of prison for robbery.

His sister, Brenda Lee Graham, also came to Story Corps with her younger brother Dwight, and she recalled what it was like for the rest of the family while James was in jail.

Ms. BRENDA LEE GRAHAM: Mom was a nervous wreck. She didn't sleep. She'd be up walking the floors and praying. And I remember that at night you could see them burning crosses, or...

Mr. THOMPSON: Right there in the front yard?

Ms. GRAHAM: Right there in the front yard. And my mom and them, they would go out in the morning, and sweep bullets off our front porch.

And see James, he was away for awhile, and when he came back it was like seeing somebody different that you didn't even know. He never talked about what he went through there. But ever since then, his mind just hadn't been the same.

My brother and his friend had to suffer on account of that, and I mean, they suffered.

One kiss. I've thought about that. It all started with a kiss.

INSKEEP: That's Brenda Lee Graham with her brother, Dwight Thompson. These conversations were recorded in Wilmington, North Carolina. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.