It was a foregone conclusion that Wednesday's White House meeting between President Obama and House Republicans would result in no forward progress in addressing the nation's fiscal issues. Presidents don't negotiate with scores of lawmakers from the other party.
But that's not to say both sides didn't get something out of it.
For Obama, it was another chance to show himself reaching across the aisle to at least talk civilly with Republicans. Independent voters essential to his re-election have repeatedly told pollsters they like him better when he does that.